Defunding big oil is our best shot at forcing change, says Mark Campanale, the founder of non-profit think tank, Carbon Tracker Initiative on this week's Climate Curious.

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Tune in to Climate Curious live from The Conduit in London with co-hosts Maryam Pasha and Clover Hogan to connect the dots between finance and climate change, why investors and banks own climate change because they own the fossil fuel system, and how you can use your own money (bank account, pension, insurance policies) to drive change.

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