It can be easy to resort to guilting and shaming tactics when you’re talking to someone about climate change who’s not on the same level as you.

But that’s not how to drive action.

This week we hear from Katharine Hayhoe, atmospheric scientist, TED speaker and one of Time’s 100 most influential people.

She argues, “dumping fear-based facts on people is not what’s going to change their minds.”

Find out why and what to do instead on this week’s bite-sized climate quickie.

Enjoyed this quickie? Listen to our full-length chat with Katharine about why talking is the most important thing you can do to fight climate change.